In this episode of Majlis, Ahmed sits down with Vinny, who left a tech support job and started over as a first-year apprentice electrician. He shares what pushed him to make the change, how fast it all happened, and what life looks like now on a busy industrial site — from early starts and safety culture to learning on the job with zero ego. They also talk about transferable skills from tech, making mistakes without fear, and Vinny’s growing respect (and renewed fear) of electricity.

Ahmed and Leo trace Leo’s path from a tool-filled barn in Herrliberg (Zurich, Switzerland) to a life built around making things in wood—starting with early projects like the Adirondack chair and the nerves of “selling your first real piece.”

In this conversation, Carl shares his deep-rooted connection to nature, stemming from his childhood experiences in Finland. He discusses his educational journey in biology and forestry, leading to his current role as a forest technician in Switzerland.